Meet the MasterMinds: Jerry Weinberg Reveals Secrets
of Consulting
For
more than 40 years, Jerry Weinberg has worked on transforming
client organizations. He is author of more than 25 books, including The
Secrets of Consulting, More
Secrets of Consulting, and
Are Your Lights On?. Weinberg has worked for
IBM and Project Mercury, and he has taught at Columbia University
and the University of Nebraska.
We asked Weinberg to let us in on some of the secrets
of effective consulting.
McLaughlin: As a longtime observer of the consulting industry,
how have you seen it change over the past several years?
Weinberg: Clients are becoming more sophisticated
when searching for consultants. They ask better questions
and look for actionable recommendations with measurable
results. They are not so concerned about getting the
lowest priced consultant.
On the other hand, some clients are less sophisticated.
I've noticed new companies entering the market looking for
consultants as a way of reducing full-time staff by hiring
expertise only when they (think they) need it. They are
often focused on the wrong problem, looking for the lowest
price, and don't know how to work well with consultants.
Both types of clients present challenges; you'd better
know which one you're dealing with before you get in too
deep.
McLaughlin: Trust is at the center of strong client relationships.
What do you do to create and sustain trusting relationships
with your clients?
Weinberg: First and foremost, I'm forever honest
and open, but never (intentionally) cruel when delivering
information. I respect all confidences, and refuse to take
confidences that I will not be able to respect. I try to
be a decent human being and treat everyone as if they are
too, regardless of what others have told me. I also work
on a money-back guarantee, so I won't take money from a
client who feels I didn't deliver as promised.
McLaughlin: You've said that the most important act in consulting
is setting the right fee. What's your perspective on consulting
fees?
Weinberg: First--as I said above--I don't take money
if I don't deliver what I promised.
Second, I make sure that my client understands my fees
up front, and I try to keep my fee structure simple so that
it's not difficult to comprehend.
Third, I use the principle of indifference: I set my
fee so that if I lose the work, I won't be devastated, or
if I get the work, I won't feel I undercut myself.
Fourth, I'm always willing to discuss my fees with a client
who has questions, and always willing to show the value
of my work in quantitative terms so clients can understand
the return on their investment in me.
McLaughlin: Is there a relationship between a consultant's
fee and his/her ability to influence the client to implement
the consultant's suggested actions?
Weinberg: Well, of course. First of all, if they
don't pay you, they won't believe you. I've found this true,
for example, when I've done pro bono work with charitable
organizations. So I always make them "pay," though
not with money.
Second, willingness to pay tells you something about
how ready they are to try something different. Of course,
some clients are willing to pay a lot of money to say, "See,
we hired an expensive consultant and he couldn't solve this
problem, so what do you expect from us?"
So, there's definitely a relationship, but it's not a simple
linear one. The fee is always a factor.
McLaughlin: You've suggested that consultants can become
a powerful force in clients' organizations, and that the
"powerful consultant" can be both desirable and
dangerous. How is it dangerous and what can consultants
do to guard against the danger?
Weinberg: You become dangerous just when your wish
comes true: clients do what you say without questioning
it. Nobody is that smart, and if you think you are, then
get out of the consulting business before you kill somebody.
You can guard against that danger by insisting that
your clients investigate your suggestions and make their
own decisions in a way that forces them to take responsibility
for them. You are selling advice, not responsibility
for decisions. Of course, you are responsible for giving
the best advice you can, but not for playing God.
McLaughlin: Many clients resist the changes recommended
by consultants. Any tips for helping consultants overcome
that resistance?
Weinberg: Yes. Don't. "Overcoming"
is not what you want to do with so-called resistance.
What you're calling "resistance" is what it looks
like to you when your clients don't feel safe following
your suggestions. So, what you want to do is learn from
it--it's a gold mine of information, as long as you don't
push to "overcome" it.
An effective consultant will follow the "resistance"
to the information that shows what's wrong with the suggestion,
or how it's framed, or what more clients need to put it
into action.
McLaughlin: If you could give a new consultant one piece
of advice, what would it be?
Weinberg: Stop believing that some single, general,
magical piece of advice can really help anybody--you or
your clients. Effective consulting requires personal
preparation, lots of work understanding your client's needs
and capabilities, numerous little "experiments"
to learn how they respond to change, and follow-up and follow-through
to complete each intervention. So, is that one piece of
advice, or many?
Your readers can learn more about these topics from my
books. Even better, they can come to the Amplify Your Effectiveness
(AYE) Conference and learn directly from me and a number
of my most effective consulting colleagues http://www.ayeconference.com.
McLaughlin: Thanks for the tips.
Find out more about Jerry Weinberg at www.geraldmweinberg.com.
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